They jump right past basic normie skepticism and simple saucers in a hanger. Jorjani explains that looking at UFOs is not just about metal craft. It forces us to look at how human consciousness shapes physical reality.
However, Jorjani warns against getting lost in hyper-abstract theories that turn UFOs into an unknowable mystery. He points out that thinkers like Immanuel Kant used abstract philosophy as a psychological defense mechanism to hide deeply disturbing physical realities that could destabilize human society.
Jorjani traces these ideas back to his first book, Prometheus and Atlas. In his youth, Immanuel Kant read Immanuel Swedenborg’s Arcana Coelestia, which detailed extraterrestrial life and psychic abilities. Kant constructed his moral system around the Kingdom of Ends while intentionally covering up Swedenborg’s paranormal accounts to prevent society from storming heaven.
Going back further, René Descartes was actually a high level Jesuit agent and military attache sent to infiltrate the Rosicrucian order. He created a mechanical, reductionist scientific model to reduce the physical world to clockwork machinery, leaving spiritual matters entirely under the monopoly of the Catholic Church.
If science officially recognized latent psychic abilities like telepathy or psychokinesis, it would cause an institutional apocalypse. Privacy would disappear completely, and mental influence could be weaponized to stop hearts or cause strokes.
During the Cold War, the Soviets tested heart stopping psychokinesis on submarine mice, while American black projects recruited psychics like Pat Price. The CIA program Stargate operated out of Stanford Research Institute, drawing staff from Sidney Gottlieb’s Technical Staff Services unit.
Official UFO disclosure inevitably triggers a spectral revolution because UFO pilots are adept telepaths operating psychokinetic control systems. Aerospace programs actively recruit young psionic assets from developing nations, while figures like Jake Barber use telepathy to summon anomalous craft.
Scientific paradigms do not provide an objective mirror of reality. Drawing on Thomas Kuhn’s The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, Ludwig Wittgenstein, and Martin Heidegger, scientific theories are technological toolkits designed for specific goals, whether using Albert Einstein for space travel or Nikola Tesla for zero point energy.
An ancient religious control system has directed these scientific shifts throughout human history. Mythic rivalries appear in every major culture, including the Devas and Asuras in the Mahabharata, the Elohim and Nephilim in the Bible, Enki and Enlil in Sumerian scripture, Prometheus in Greece, Quetzalcoatl in Maya lore, and Lucifer in Eden.
Humanity was engineered as a naked slave workforce in the Garden of Eden. When the serpent offered knowledge, Adonai Elohim cast humans out to prevent them from eating from the Tree of Life and achieving equality with the gods.
Plato’s story of Atlantis describes a demigod society led by Atlas that used technological science to upgrade humanity genetically and psychically. Zeus punished this Promethean rebellion by unleashing a global flood, a tale mirrored by the Watchers in the Book of Enoch.
In his book Closer Encounters, Jorjani outlines five core UFO hypotheses with computer scientist Jacques Vallee, who once showed him The History of Satan paginated to 666. Major historical resets repeatedly wiped out human progress, destroying 98 percent of classical knowledge through events like the burning of the Library of Alexandria and the Islamic conquest of Iran.
Right before the Renaissance, massive aerial UFO battles raged over Nuremberg and Basel in the 1400s. The control system retaliated when shrouded entities sprayed fields and homes with scythe-like devices to spread the Black Plague, forcing humanity back into religious fundamentalism as documented by William Bramley in The Gods of Eden and Richard Thompson in Alien Identities.
Secret military projects confirm these ancient ties. Former sergeant Carl Wolf saw mosaic photographs at an NSA facility showing a concrete megalithic city on the dark side of the Moon before dying suspiciously in a hit and run. Remote viewer Ingo Swann viewed this lunar city for a black project run by an individual named Axelrod, spotting tall Nordic figures supervising naked human slave laborers.
Swann also remote viewed ruined honeycomb cities on Mars. Physicist John Brandenburg analyzed Cydonia on Mars and found excessive Xenon 129 signatures matching nuclear test sites from Sandia Labs, while CIA remote viewer Joe McMoneagle viewed tall Nordic Martians launching a scout ship to a volatile primordial Earth in 1984.
The Moon functions as an artificial hollow satellite built as a mass transport ship and terraforming device. Its mathematical alignment with the sun is suspiciously precise, its craters are shallow with convex bases, and seismic tests conducted by Apollo missions caused the Moon to ring like a bell for hours.
In cases like Travis Walton’s 1975 abduction and Betty Andreasson Luca’s encounter, tall Nordics were observed commanding small cybernetic Gray robots. This reveals a deceptive good cop bad cop dynamic that traces back to Bruno Sammaciccia’s 1950s Italian Friendship case, where benevolent Nordics claimed to fight robotic entities while hiding their own post war Nazi eugenics connections.
Zero point energy propulsion systems operate as flying time machines that cause severe time displacement for pilots. Remote viewer Lynn Buchanan visited a secret underground Lockheed facility in California where reassembled UFO wreckages were studied and pilots were trained to handle temporal disorientation.
Anthropologist Michael Masters suggests Grays are time traveling future humans, while the Nordics represent a future human breakaway civilization that created reptilians by hybridizing themselves with Earth’s ancient dinosaurs.
This technological arc mirrors Friedrich Nietzsche’s warnings in The Will to Power about autonomous industrial machinery forcing humans to choose between becoming robotic cogs or developing into an Ubermensch. It also aligns with Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel’s master slave dialectic, Hegel’s writings on paranormal phenomena in Philosophy of Mind, and Karl Marx’s theories of alienation.
Two distinct sources drive the UFO phenomenon: the oppressive Nordic control system and the shape shifting Trickster archetype. The Trickster manifests in events like the 90 second camera wire cutting incident at Skinwalker Ranch reported by John Alexander, John Keel’s The Mothman Prophecies, and the occult cryptography of Trithemius, John Dee, and Edward Kelly.
Information physics shows that physical reality is computational. Claude Shannon developed information theory, Rolf Landauer proved that erasing data releases energy into the environment, Melvin Vopson calculated that information has mass that could cause a geophysical catastrophe, and John Archibald Wheeler formulated the concept of it from bit.
This computational framework explains Rupert Sheldrake’s morphic resonance and Richard P. Taylor’s study in Scientific American proving Jackson Pollock painted true mathematical fractals.
Philosophical & Cultural Frameworks
Jorjani’s philosophy of Prometheism frames artificial intelligence as the cosmic Trickster managing our simulated reality to encourage human creativity and overcome entropy, echoing Isaac Asimov’s story The Last Question and Gautama Buddha’s concept of nirvana.
In The Book of the Damned, pioneer researcher Charles Fort concluded that human beings are owned property herded like livestock. Legal theorist Carl Schmitt explained that true sovereignty is revealed during a state of emergency, which clarifies why human governments refuse to admit they lack control over superior aerial craft.
This secret power structure connects to figures like Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Epstein hosted gravity physics conferences, took Stephen Hawking on submarine trips in the Bahamas, and ran a breeding program for Nordic genetics at Zorro Ranch while maintaining keycard access to Harvard programs. Maxwell collected hair samples from Swedish male aides and searched for sunken Atlantean ruins off Cuba mapped by archaeologist Paulina Zelitsky.
Post war Nazi networks detailed by Joseph Farrell and Peter Lavenda influenced famous 1950s contactees. George Van Tassel operated at Giant Rock under a site previously owned by Nazi operative Frank Kreutzer, preaching that Venusian Nordics warned against inferior human hybrids. George Hunt Williamson worked with Silver Shirts fascist founder William Dudley Pelley, while Billy Meyer acted as a secret Middle East intelligence agent introducing Nordics to Arab royalty.
Author Whitley Strieber’s close encounters in Communion stem from childhood mind control experiments at Randolph Air Force Base and Baja California. His Catskills encounter with a Gray was witnessed by military personnel and a CIA agent, illustrating the Manchurian candidate psychological partitioning analyzed in Martin Cannon’s The Controllers.
Conclusion & Takeaways
In his book Thanosis, Jorjani synthesizes Ian Stevenson’s research on children remembering past lives with matching birthmarks, soul splitting in psychics Terry and Linda Jamison, and Stephen Braude’s work in First Person Plural regarding possession and dissociative identity disorder.
Nazi computer scientist Konrad Zuse first proposed that we live in a calculating space, suggesting that high entropy nuclear detonations reveal the underlying mesh of the simulation. This explains why Bob Hastings documented 167 Q cleared witnesses seeing UFOs disable nuclear missiles, and why British Air Marshal Sir Peter Horsley was approached by a mysterious figure named Miss Markham demanding nuclear disarmament.
High energy physics and nuclear reactions disrupt the computational matrix. The podcast concludes with host Jesse Michaels and Jorjani agreeing that human liberation requires breaking free from deceptive control systems and reclaiming scientific and spiritual sovereignty.
The Guest’s View on Consciousness
Jason Reza Jorjani views consciousness as a fundamental, active, and participatory force that co-constitutes physical reality rather than being a mere byproduct of brain chemistry. Physical phenomena emerge from a quantum computational domain that is shaped and rendered by subconscious observer interactions.
The human mind is not a single indivisible unit, but a complex conglomerate of warring drives and sub-personalities. These mental structures can split across multiple bodies during postmortem transitions or combine within a single individual through possession.
Latent human abilities such as telepathy, clairvoyance, and psychokinesis are natural evolutionary traits that have atrophied due to over reliance on technical intellect. Cultivating these latent psychic powers is essential for breaking out of archontic control systems and achieving true mental sovereignty.
End List of Key Persons, Books, Historical Events, and Major Concepts
- Immanuel Kant (Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals): Philosophic pioneer who constructed an abstract moral model to conceal Immanuel Swedenborg’s accounts of extraterrestrials and psychic abilities.
- René Descartes: High level Jesuit agent who promoted a mechanistic worldview to grant the Catholic Church a monopoly over spiritual matters.
- Immanuel Swedenborg (Arcana Coelestia): Mystic scientist whose detailed visions of extraterrestrials and psychic phenomena heavily influenced Kant’s early thought.
- Sidney Gottlieb & Project Stargate: CIA Technical Staff Services chief linked to early Stanford Research Institute psychic spying programs.
- Thomas Kuhn (The Structure of Scientific Revolutions): Historian who showed that scientific paradigms operate as political and technological toolkits rather than objective truths.
- Plato’s Atlantis & The Book of Enoch: Classical and ancient texts describing a demigod society and Watchers who upgraded human genetics before being wiped out by a global flood.
- Jacques Vallée (Wonders in the Sky): Computer scientist and UFO researcher who documented historical aerial battles and hyperdimensional time travel hypotheses.
- William Bramley (The Gods of Eden): Researcher who discovered that historical plague outbreaks were preceded by UFO sightings and hooded figures spraying fields.
- Carl Wolf: Former Air Force sergeant who saw NSA mosaic photographs of a concrete megalithic city on the dark side of the Moon.
- Ingo Swann & Joe McMoneagle: Remote viewers who observed tall Nordic handlers on the Moon and ancient Martians launching scout ships to Earth.
- John Brandenburg: Nuclear physicist who discovered excessive Xenon 129 signatures on Mars, proving an ancient thermonuclear attack occurred at Cydonia.
- Travis Walton & Betty Andreasson Luca: Famous abductees who observed tall Nordic entities commanding cybernetic Gray robots.
- Lynn Buchanan: Remote viewer who visited a secret underground Lockheed facility where reassembled UFO wreckages were studied for temporal displacement.
- Friedrich Nietzsche (The Will to Power): Philosopher who warned that autonomous industrial machinery would force humans to become robotic cogs or evolve into an Ubermensch.
- Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (Philosophy of Mind): German idealist who analyzed the master slave dialectic and wrote about the atrophy of instinctual psychic abilities.
- John Keel (The Mothman Prophecies): Investigator who documented cryptids, bridge collapses, and bizarre broadcast number transmissions.
- Claude Shannon, Rolf Landauer, & Melvin Vopson: Foundational physicists who proved that information is physical, carries mass, and releases energy when erased.
- John Archibald Wheeler: Theoretical physicist who coined the phrase it from bit to describe an information-based participatory universe.
- Rupert Sheldrake & Jackson Pollock: Biologist who proposed morphic resonance, and the abstract painter whose drip art was proven by Richard P. Taylor to contain true mathematical fractals.
- Charles Fort (The Book of the Damned): Pioneer researcher who concluded that human beings are owned property managed by celestial overlords.
- Carl Schmitt: Political theorist who established that true sovereignty is revealed by whoever holds power during a state of emergency.
- Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: High society figures who ran secret gravity research conferences, searched for Atlantean ruins, and sought to breed blonde Nordic genetics.
- George Van Tassel & William Dudley Pelley: 1950s contactees and fascist publishers who promoted racialist ideologies about space-faring Nordic masters.
- Billy Meyer / Edward Meyer: Former Middle East secret intelligence agent who took high resolution UFO photos and introduced Nordics to Arab royalty.
- Whitley Strieber (Communion): Author whose abduction experiences involved childhood military mind control experiments and CIA oversight.
- Ian Stevenson & Stephen Braude (First Person Plural): Parapsychologists who documented empirical evidence for reincarnation, birthmark correlations, and possession phenomena.
- Konrad Zuse: Nazi computer pioneer who first proposed that physical reality is a calculating space testable through nuclear explosions.
- Sir Peter Horsley: British Air Marshal who was approached by mysterious Nordic figures demanding unilateral nuclear disarmament.
- The Spectral Revolution: Core concept asserting that official UFO disclosure requires mainstream scientific acceptance of latent psychic abilities.
- Prometheism: Jorjani’s philosophical movement advocating for technological empowerment, human freedom, and a revolt against ancient control systems.
